tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767918086420070312.post5407642953020097711..comments2023-12-14T17:43:04.484+00:00Comments on timbobig: BLEUTimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11201835677426254567noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767918086420070312.post-5402493973687725892017-08-23T22:00:07.559+01:002017-08-23T22:00:07.559+01:00Two years has been reduced by a change of prime mi...Two years has been reduced by a change of prime minister, which took the summer of last year, and a general election. And last autumn was taken up by the prime minister refusing to discuss the matter. There seems to be a considerable likelihood that all EU legislation and practice will simply be taken over, we'll still pay in, receive less in return, have no say in any decisions, we'll be desperate to attract workers from Europe where we have shortages in our workforce, and our borders will remain entirely open via Ireland in any case. So those who voted for BLEU because they're racist, xenophobic, believe that it's corrupt, badly run, or simply want out, won't be happy and those who didn't want to leave won't be either. Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00822383355869390919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767918086420070312.post-1630445202188212922017-08-16T23:08:36.226+01:002017-08-16T23:08:36.226+01:00Yep. Also, of course, nobody in the public media s...Yep. Also, of course, nobody in the public media seems (yet) to be stating the obvious: it doesn't have to happen! Referenda have no force in law, and this one was, explicitly in the enabling legislation, purely advisory. It was an opinion poll.<br />Oh gawd, I keep saying this obvious stuff over and over, everywhere I can, especially on pro-BLEU websites. They never respond, because they have no facts or logic with which to do so. (Plus the fact that many of them seem to have only a tenuous grasp of the English language - which is a tad ironic, innit?)Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11201835677426254567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767918086420070312.post-83652782027255193622017-08-15T19:13:29.671+01:002017-08-15T19:13:29.671+01:00Since 25 June last year I’ve been making the 37% p...Since 25 June last year I’ve been making the 37% point to anyone who cared to listen (not many initially, but hardly surprising that more are looking for a way out of this lunacy now reality is starting to bite). Those who didn’t vote evidently didn’t want to shake up the status quo – they certainly didn’t feel strongly enough to get off their backsides. It seems their choice was based on either being too confused by the prospects of BLEU to risk voting for it, or complacency. So when media spout that the nation has decided for BLEU I do wish they would accurately report that just over a third of the nation has decided for BLEU. It’s not black or white.Richard WalkLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12306430776956627549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767918086420070312.post-7386616429666459112017-08-15T17:55:22.492+01:002017-08-15T17:55:22.492+01:00Well, the 28% who didn't vote obviously didn&#...Well, the 28% who didn't vote obviously didn't want to leave, otherwise they'd have said so! <br />I don't agree that two years is a long time - trade agreements are hellishly complicated, and there's a huge risk of us ending with no agreements at all (which sometimes seems to be what our government and many commenters hope for).Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11201835677426254567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767918086420070312.post-976363233110634082017-08-15T08:08:43.861+01:002017-08-15T08:08:43.861+01:0037% voted to leave, but this doesn't imply tha...37% voted to leave, but this doesn't imply that 63% voted to stay. I agree: we know practically nothing - and two years is a long time. The abuse should be dropped in favour of a national book on what the outcome will be. I bet that surprisingly little will really change. Basically your five points sum it all up admirably!Markhoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14214833030729481842noreply@blogger.com